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Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Im suggesting a brand new fun form of pvp, battleground pvp.

A wide open field where 20+ players have 10 minutes to just duke it out and kill whoever they want.

No DP and instant respawn, i think thatd be muy fun

thoughts

Arcanis Imperium · Aug 09, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

your talking about a last man standing mode. Not a bad idea, but I think the warriors would probably be at disadvantage there. Most people would team up to take out the warriors first, then it'd be come a Caster fight.

Weezer_Blue · Aug 09, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39

The game's balanced for teamwork. Where would this leave monks who usually play support, and such other classes? Without teams of at least 4, this idea will never fly.

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07

monks wouldnt have to play, i hate when people think that every mode should be for every class

Tactical-Dillusions · Aug 09, 2005, 02:10 AM // 02:10

I thoroughly support this idea. Maybe my ranger would come out of his box.

KelvinC · Aug 09, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

The game's balanced for teamwork. Where would this leave monks who usually play support, and such other classes? Without teams of at least 4, this idea will never fly.

Teamwork in general is good, but sacrifice fun to force team work is bad.

Weezer_Blue · Aug 09, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

monks wouldnt have to play, i hate when people think that every mode should be for every class

Cool. Lets make an area where Mesmers and Necros suck.

... Oh, Wait. It's called PvE.

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 02:15 AM // 02:15

ok?

i can make taht area, i have the power of the sun

aB- · Aug 09, 2005, 02:18 AM // 02:18

I personally think it is a bad idea. As stated, a monks would be at a disadvantage, as well as other builds that are meant to handle groups. How would you like it if there were sections of the game were warriors were useless, or rangers were useless, and so on.

In addition, it would be a luck and persuasion contest. Be the lucky person to not get attacked, and the lucky person to get the last hit on a person. Persuade others to attack the targets you choose. No one character can completely dominate others, as they are all essentially equal.

Arcanis Imperium · Aug 09, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nizzim

monks wouldnt have to play, i hate when people think that every mode should be for every class

Yeah, doesnt that suck when everyone is allowed to play with their favorite character?

Rogmar · Aug 09, 2005, 02:39 AM // 02:39

or you could divide the area into 6 sections for each respective class

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42

youd respawn instantly, itd be a free for all for ever itd be awesome

Ensabah Nur · Aug 09, 2005, 02:43 AM // 02:43

I think it's a great idea, for those that wish to participate, just as PvP/GvG & PvE is for those that wish to participate. If you don't wish to participate, don't what's it matter to you ? Let me reiterate if this isn't something your into, then let others that are be into it, it's not a "BAD IDEA" just because YOU don't like it. Too many GW players get this whole issue of "Everyone should play the way I play". Well news, we're all different and all have our own preferances. "live and let live" - Paul Mcartney

The following was my suggestion in another forum when an Open Map Area for all out fighting was the OP's Idea:

Might I make this suggestion:

Instead of a Town/Outpost with however many players can be crammed in there. I suggest an Arena similar to the ones we have now where 16(current max players per arena) or maybe up to 20 players all pay an entry fee(say umm $50 or $100 gold) Then fight it out King of the Hill/Last Man Standing/Winner Take All style. Last Player to SURVIVE wins the pot,gets fame points etc. Maybe even have a Ladder for it? (No Drops)(Once you're dead you're ejected or lay there and watch the rest of the battle{make that players choice})

Also from same thread when disputed:

"Once "people" start "living" in a world those "people" start to "mold" that world to their liking." - Ensabah Nur

In other words, if many people like a suggestion/idea, Anet deems it feasable with little to no negative affect on the other types/styles of play/players and gives Anet the ability to please a portion of the buying consumer, Then why not?
Oh and before some of you give me the , "But GW was designed/based on the teamwork concept" let me point to the above quote and add this from the same thread:

A) The whole concept of this type of battle is to get away from the "TEAMWORK" concept(As I stated above there is a desire for this,OBVIOUSLY)
B) We're the ones PAYING for it,it's our world therefore we can ATTEMPT to guide it.

"Although I may disapprove of what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it'' Attributed to Voltaire. arigatou

slasc · Aug 09, 2005, 05:34 AM // 05:34

I think we need some ways to PvP as either teams or solo in an open area with random or preselected opponents (per our choosing. not just one combination of those possibilities)

The PvP in this game gets an A+ when it comes to balance and skill involved to PvP.

The PvP in this game gets an F- for PvP options in setting up matches or open PvP (note : there IS no open PvP. while the game would recieve an F for the lack of this alone, it essentially would also recieve an F for the lack of options in setting up matches. So...maybe a double F would be more appropiate)

aB- · Aug 09, 2005, 05:48 AM // 05:48

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Originally Posted by Ensabah Nur

I think it's a great idea, for those that wish to participate, just as PvP/GvG & PvE is for those that wish to participate. If you don't wish to participate, don't what's it matter to you ?

In fact, it DOES affect me. ANet would have to spend time to implement this, time that could be spent on more important issues.

Since you don't have to participate, you wouldn't mind adding an area with a large TV that you can sit and watch stuff on, or a large car wash where you can clean your characters for a fee. Then maybe we should add a place where the world spins very fast constantly so it is a struggle to walk in one direction, but you wouldn't mind because it doesn't affect you.

jon__ · Aug 09, 2005, 06:02 AM // 06:02

People on this forum are always declaring "bad idea" for some reason or another. If you don't like the idea of a battleground don't play there. Some people would like to get a break from the teamwork once in a while, I myself would like to see a 1v1 arena.

"In fact, it DOES affect me. ANet would have to spend time to implement this, time that could be spent on more important issues."

More important in your opinion. Who died and made you king? This kind of thinking is stupid and selfish. As ever, Anet will implement what they want to. More pvp options, including a battleground or a 1v1 arena or something else we haven't even heard of, would be good candidates for expansion content. I seriously doubt whether it would be very difficult to implement, say, a casual 1v1 arena or a 16v16 arena; I'd think a battleground would take less time than a new area to develop.

(Disclaimer: IANAGWC -- I am not a Guild Wars coder, but I have worked on games like this before.)

dog13000 · Aug 09, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08

...and the elimentilist squishes the poor herd of W/Mo's beating up on each other with his storms of fire

Racthoh · Aug 09, 2005, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

monks wouldnt have to play, i hate when people think that every mode should be for every class

I was under the assumption that the ToPK was meant for every class. I have to reject the invites with zeal when I go there with my w/mo.

Rieselle · Aug 09, 2005, 08:45 AM // 08:45

The solution for this suggestion is simple.

We already have 6 x 8 player maps in certain Tombs maps.

Why not have big deathmatch arenas with really large and varied maps, with 12 x 4 players? And a full set of henchies to choose from.

So you can get 12 teams of 4 duking it out on maps that have a mix of open plains, narrow corridors, etc, sometime free for all, sometimes team vs team in some corner of the map etc. And people who want to play alone can bring 3 henchies in. Or not, they can join by themselves if they want, I guess.

Ensabah Nur · Aug 09, 2005, 10:18 AM // 10:18

[QUOTE=aB-]In fact, it DOES affect me. ANet would have to spend time to implement this, time that could be spent on more important issues.
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Originally Posted by jon__

More important in your opinion. Who died and made you king? This kind of thinking is stupid and selfish.

Arigatou Jon, you said it all with this simple statement.